May 4-5 2008
Moscone Center
San Francisco, CA

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Is the Semantic Web Doomed?

'Startup Camp 5: San Francisco, May 4-5, 2008

Notes from prior Startup Camp session on semantic web.

Session Notes

MarkCarranza - notes from blissn :)

  • 1 8:37 am
  • 2 5/5/08
  • 3 twine
  • 4 semantic discovery
  • 5 to have discovery happen
  • 6 I like knowledge
  • 7 Michele Urbino
  • 8 Michele Urbino: private/public data
  • 9 it is doomed
  • 10 it doesn't match the way people think
  • 11 how do you label it?
  • 12 what is it about?
  • 13 the properties of a basketball
  • 14 the properties of a basketball depend on context
  • 15 the properties of a basketball depend on context: on land vs. in water
  • 16 an XML framework
  • 17 it depends of the context
  • 18 RDF is an XML framework
  • 19 RDF
  • 20 things are tagged
  • 21 categories that people agree on
  • 22 URIs refer to things
  • 23 we can create our own words
  • 24 resource identifiers
  • 25 URIs: resource identifiers
  • 26 in logic you start off with a syntax
  • 27 N3
  • 28 any type of language
  • 29 RDF RML
  • 30 we have many syntaxes
  • 31 as a mini language
  • 32 as a mini language of the semantic web
  • 33 triples
  • 34 RDF triples
  • 35 RDF triples: subject, relation, object
  • 36 moving beyond syntax
  • 37 the meaning of the object is understandable by software
  • 38 the triple of subject, relation, object
  • 39 what does the subject mean?
  • 40 the "what does the subject mean?" problem
  • 41 screw/bolt
  • 42 things having to do with what people are interested in
  • 43 applying knowledge in an argument
  • 44 RDFA
  • 45 the big word I like: hyperdata
  • 46 hypertext is text that links to other text
  • 47 hyperdata is data that links to other data
  • 48 applying knowledge in the physical world
  • 49 relations to other documents
  • 50 an open world assumption
  • 51 that's my name
  • 52 one of the formats that you specify
  • 53 RDFA: how to embed RDF in HTML
  • 54 in this document
  • 55 RDF in this document
  • 56 FOAF
  • 57 FOAF: friend of a friend
  • 58 doing hyperdata
  • 59 assuming someone wants to articulate triples
  • 60 a semantic address book
  • 61 let's just cede the point
  • 62 other triples
  • 63 FOAF solves a real problem
  • 64 social networks are fragmenting rapidly
  • 65 a web of relations that's open
  • 66 using universal namespaces
  • 67 this tool knows how to understand
  • 68 how everyone going to agree?
  • 69 the tools are the key
  • 70 knowledge management in real companies
  • 71 SKOS
  • 72 SKOS: simple knowledge management organization system
  • 73 not specifying the relationship
  • 74 linking and not specifying the relationship
  • 75 when you want
  • 76 we reason with the web
  • 77 the big graph of relations
  • 78 if you want to be more precise
  • 79 an application that uses semantic technology
  • 80 doing semantics under the hood
  • 81 to merge information
  • 82 to merge structured information
  • 83 to merge structured information from many databases
  • 84 dbpedia
  • 85 dbpedia: structures wikipedia into triples
  • 86 SPARQL
  • 87 SPARQL query
  • 88 RDF searching
  • 89 rdf database
  • 90 RDF query
  • 91 who decides what goes in triples?
  • 92 who decides what goes in the triples?
  • 93 a general solution for intelligence
  • 94 interesting applications of the semantic web
  • 95 a well-understood domain
  • 96 to start in well-understood domains
  • 97 you start in well-understood domains
  • 98 you start small in well-understood domains
  • 99 Stanly Knutson
  • 100 manual writing is not going to happen
  • 101 the semantic web is just an extension of the web
  • 102 thought is biological
  • 103 all the information is always up to date
  • 104 I don't care if it's semantic, it's pretty useful
  • 105 putting down the reasoning
  • 106 the FOAF vocabulary
  • 107 the ontology can be structurally different
  • 108 Nadim Bitar
  • 109 consciousness modeling in computers
  • 110 human style learning
  • 111 the user delivery experience is what people care about
  • 112 a complex set of procedures
  • 113 you have to take simple problems
  • 114 to make applications semantic
  • 115 to make applications semantic applications
  • 116 the kinds of problems that interest me
  • 117 Boeing took 3 1/2 years about how to categorize screws and bolts
  • 118 trying to come up with categories is hard
  • 119 the stale data problem
  • 120 what are the things that are going to get adopted?
  • 121 a translation service
  • 122 a natural language translation service
  • 123 the information overload that we have will push providers to provide semantic value
  • 124 intelligent agents
  • 125 Dave Beckett at Yahoo! is creating Redland
  • 126 the total knowledge growth
  • 127 the total knowledge growth of humanity
  • 128 the total knowledge growth of computer-connected humanity

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